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		<title>By: Lisa Hovell</title>
		<link>http://books.scoop.co.nz/2008/11/18/no-to-nazi-pseudo-history-an-open-letter/comment-page-2/#comment-49276</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Hovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel so mad that this racist book sells in New Zealand bookshops. 
There is no cover up?, Maori have nothing to gain from a cover up.
Its just another excuse to call Maori Primitive and Violent and feel better about stealing their land.
Even claiming that the Koru in their designs has been stolen from the CELTS? It appears in Nature, it symbolises new life and new beginnings just like a new fern frond.
How offensive this book is, shame to the Bookshops peddling this anti MAORI racist drivel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel so mad that this racist book sells in New Zealand bookshops.<br />
There is no cover up?, Maori have nothing to gain from a cover up.<br />
Its just another excuse to call Maori Primitive and Violent and feel better about stealing their land.<br />
Even claiming that the Koru in their designs has been stolen from the CELTS? It appears in Nature, it symbolises new life and new beginnings just like a new fern frond.<br />
How offensive this book is, shame to the Bookshops peddling this anti MAORI racist drivel.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 03:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think  having an open mind and thinking outside of accepted norms is a prerequisite to advancing education and opportunity. I can understand why it happens but disparaging remarks and put downs do little to assist in the process. I am of English and European  origins and stopped attending University in  NZ 1987 after I heard the most appalling put downs from a sociologist such as &quot; We don&#039;t have to take our lead (in NZ) from a turd of a little country that sits at the top of the map (England). 
And I  saw preferential marking and treatment based on race. How can this kind of  attitude possibly further the truth in academic or any other kind of  research? 
It may help to keep in mind that it was an &quot;amateur&quot; fossil hunter that discovered the fossilized bones of therapod dinasaurs in NZ when all the professionals &quot;knew&quot; that they did not exist]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think  having an open mind and thinking outside of accepted norms is a prerequisite to advancing education and opportunity. I can understand why it happens but disparaging remarks and put downs do little to assist in the process. I am of English and European  origins and stopped attending University in  NZ 1987 after I heard the most appalling put downs from a sociologist such as &#8221; We don&#8217;t have to take our lead (in NZ) from a turd of a little country that sits at the top of the map (England).<br />
And I  saw preferential marking and treatment based on race. How can this kind of  attitude possibly further the truth in academic or any other kind of  research?<br />
It may help to keep in mind that it was an &#8220;amateur&#8221; fossil hunter that discovered the fossilized bones of therapod dinasaurs in NZ when all the professionals &#8220;knew&#8221; that they did not exist</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see Ngapuhi elder David Rankin pitching tribal history against the academic taliban that foolishly thinks it can dictate to a people what their history will be. There were inhabitants in these islands when Maori arrived, so says Ngapuhi. Game set and match Mr Hamilton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see Ngapuhi elder David Rankin pitching tribal history against the academic taliban that foolishly thinks it can dictate to a people what their history will be. There were inhabitants in these islands when Maori arrived, so says Ngapuhi. Game set and match Mr Hamilton.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Balfour</title>
		<link>http://books.scoop.co.nz/2008/11/18/no-to-nazi-pseudo-history-an-open-letter/comment-page-2/#comment-42873</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Balfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The question, then, is who does one believe – a man who can’t even recognise blatant historical facts like the Holocaust and Al Qaeda’s role in 9/11, or a community of hundreds of dedicated scholars? It’s a pity, Mykeljon, that you’ve made a fool of yourself by believeing Doutre. &quot;

..... and this is the canard that they always troll out.  &quot;Denial&quot; by its definition, is when something is stated as never happening, or an act was never done.  The people who are identified here as &#039;holocaust deniers&#039;  (no, I won&#039;t CAPITALISE that word, as that would indicate it has special status in history above other known holocaust events) have never - to my research knowledge - &#039;denied&#039; the massive loss of Jewish (and other) lives under German direction.  All they ever do (and rightly are allowed to do) is question the actual figures touted by the holocaust lobby.  To say &#039;six million&#039;, as an example, is no longer tenable once you understand that  the caretakers at Aushweitz themselves no longer use these inflated figures for deaths at that one camp.  &quot;Denial&quot;, therefore, is a canard.  I would go further here, and state quite clearly that there is very little evidence that links any body the West refers to as &quot;Al Quaeda&quot; (or its various other spellings) as the group responsible for the murders in America on September 11th.  The event is a massive scandal, of shocking proportions, due to the blatant refusal of US authorities to perform a proper forensic investigation.  This massive crime scene was appallingly mis-handled - and that was either deliberate or incompetent - you can choose your opinion here.  But don&#039;t crucify those people who want to ask legitimate quesions about either the total number of Jewish murders by Nazi Germany, or the Realpolitic foundations behind 9/11.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The question, then, is who does one believe – a man who can’t even recognise blatant historical facts like the Holocaust and Al Qaeda’s role in 9/11, or a community of hundreds of dedicated scholars? It’s a pity, Mykeljon, that you’ve made a fool of yourself by believeing Doutre. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.. and this is the canard that they always troll out.  &#8220;Denial&#8221; by its definition, is when something is stated as never happening, or an act was never done.  The people who are identified here as &#8216;holocaust deniers&#8217;  (no, I won&#8217;t CAPITALISE that word, as that would indicate it has special status in history above other known holocaust events) have never &#8211; to my research knowledge &#8211; &#8216;denied&#8217; the massive loss of Jewish (and other) lives under German direction.  All they ever do (and rightly are allowed to do) is question the actual figures touted by the holocaust lobby.  To say &#8216;six million&#8217;, as an example, is no longer tenable once you understand that  the caretakers at Aushweitz themselves no longer use these inflated figures for deaths at that one camp.  &#8220;Denial&#8221;, therefore, is a canard.  I would go further here, and state quite clearly that there is very little evidence that links any body the West refers to as &#8220;Al Quaeda&#8221; (or its various other spellings) as the group responsible for the murders in America on September 11th.  The event is a massive scandal, of shocking proportions, due to the blatant refusal of US authorities to perform a proper forensic investigation.  This massive crime scene was appallingly mis-handled &#8211; and that was either deliberate or incompetent &#8211; you can choose your opinion here.  But don&#8217;t crucify those people who want to ask legitimate quesions about either the total number of Jewish murders by Nazi Germany, or the Realpolitic foundations behind 9/11.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surely, that if Martin is right, wouldn&#039;t it bring more of nz together? After all many maori are of Celtic heritage. Would it not give more Mana to Maori, and Celtic New zealanders? After all don&#039;t we share common ancestors. By throwing in the word RACE into history, are we not seperating ourselves as humans, and forgetting  the lengths people went to discovered new possibilities.  Surely everyday kiwis like myself, are excited at the thought of extending new Zealand&#039;s history, without it becoming a &quot;who was here first war&quot; I have read Both Martins book, and listened to his red ice interview, and even tho I am not a scholar, am intrigued to find out more.  I have read many accounts of Maori being of Taiwanese ancestry, so is it not plausible, that they learnt their stone/celestial alignments from those ancestors? After all Japan have many stone circles, any many monuments that are preflood times, hidden along their coastlines.  We&#039;ve become so wrapped up in post flood ( the last deluge anyway) history. Maybe if all of humanity would look past the last 2000, 5000, 12,0000 years, then doors can be opened to a less segregated world. I would also like to make one point in regards to the word CELT, Martin himself uses this world as an extremely global term, celts were from many parts of the northern hemisphere.  We know that the Greeks and Picts and danann were sea Faring people, so if they infiltrated the brits, why could&#039;t they of gone to the southern hemisphere? Australian has found many ancient anomalies pertaining to the egyptians nd or isrealis, so what makes anyone think that they couldn&#039;t of made it to nz.  I am excited for the day, when the government allowed all documentation to be read, and an extensive dig to be done.  I am sure much will be found from the Taupo per eruption in the 3rd century.  Good luck to all who are in search for a more united nz. From an  uneducated, non scholar.... hoping, lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, that if Martin is right, wouldn&#8217;t it bring more of nz together? After all many maori are of Celtic heritage. Would it not give more Mana to Maori, and Celtic New zealanders? After all don&#8217;t we share common ancestors. By throwing in the word RACE into history, are we not seperating ourselves as humans, and forgetting  the lengths people went to discovered new possibilities.  Surely everyday kiwis like myself, are excited at the thought of extending new Zealand&#8217;s history, without it becoming a &#8220;who was here first war&#8221; I have read Both Martins book, and listened to his red ice interview, and even tho I am not a scholar, am intrigued to find out more.  I have read many accounts of Maori being of Taiwanese ancestry, so is it not plausible, that they learnt their stone/celestial alignments from those ancestors? After all Japan have many stone circles, any many monuments that are preflood times, hidden along their coastlines.  We&#8217;ve become so wrapped up in post flood ( the last deluge anyway) history. Maybe if all of humanity would look past the last 2000, 5000, 12,0000 years, then doors can be opened to a less segregated world. I would also like to make one point in regards to the word CELT, Martin himself uses this world as an extremely global term, celts were from many parts of the northern hemisphere.  We know that the Greeks and Picts and danann were sea Faring people, so if they infiltrated the brits, why could&#8217;t they of gone to the southern hemisphere? Australian has found many ancient anomalies pertaining to the egyptians nd or isrealis, so what makes anyone think that they couldn&#8217;t of made it to nz.  I am excited for the day, when the government allowed all documentation to be read, and an extensive dig to be done.  I am sure much will be found from the Taupo per eruption in the 3rd century.  Good luck to all who are in search for a more united nz. From an  uneducated, non scholar&#8230;. hoping, lol</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his defence of Holocaust denial(way) above, Martin Douche made a claim about the origin of WW2 that some of the ignorant here might have swallowed. The Polish did not slaughter ethnic Germans in Poland - these were SS false flag causi belli orchestrated by Hitler. It all came out at Nuremburg...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his defence of Holocaust denial(way) above, Martin Douche made a claim about the origin of WW2 that some of the ignorant here might have swallowed. The Polish did not slaughter ethnic Germans in Poland &#8211; these were SS false flag causi belli orchestrated by Hitler. It all came out at Nuremburg&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a believer in Doutre...until I read through this forum. What a waste of time I spent in reading Doutre diatribe and believing it. Thanks for putting me straight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a believer in Doutre&#8230;until I read through this forum. What a waste of time I spent in reading Doutre diatribe and believing it. Thanks for putting me straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read all of it. I think on the science end of it, Scott and Edward won. However, on a human level, Scott and Edward definitely lost. Martin got a bit nasty towards the end of the debate but I truly think Scott started it. Scott, you definitely need a lesson in civility. You truly know how to alienate a brother. If someone called me a racist neo-nazi and I knew in my heart that I wasn&#039;t, this would be very upsetting to me and I would most likely lash out. These are charges that must be reserved for only the most dire of men. I truly don&#039;t think Martin is a racist neo-nazi. I actually think he&#039;s a pretty sincere guy - maybe a tad misguided but hey, he keeps the scholars on their toes, if anything. The way you treated him sort of reminds me of the way the left is treating Ron Paul in America at the moment. It may be a bit of a stretch as an analogy and correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but didn&#039;t Hitler use a bit of Nietzsche&#039;s philosophy to develop his own. Sure, Nietzsche is considered misguided by many, but I am quite certain he wasn&#039;t advocating the extermination of the Jewish race. (Ricky Gervais does a great piece on this exact point in one of his stand-up comedy dvds that I own.) We are so intolerant and I have to say that Scott&#039;s initial piece absolutely reeked of arrogance and judgement. In the end, it seems to me, that although you may not agree with the conclusions Martin has drawn from his research, you must admit that he has definitely done a shitload of research (albeit scattered and eclectic, in your opinion). And from assessing everything Martin wrote in this debate, I just couldn&#039;t bring myself to the thought that this man is evil as you tried to portray him. I think that Martin is a thoughtful man. Eccentric?...probably....Evil? Shame on you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read all of it. I think on the science end of it, Scott and Edward won. However, on a human level, Scott and Edward definitely lost. Martin got a bit nasty towards the end of the debate but I truly think Scott started it. Scott, you definitely need a lesson in civility. You truly know how to alienate a brother. If someone called me a racist neo-nazi and I knew in my heart that I wasn&#8217;t, this would be very upsetting to me and I would most likely lash out. These are charges that must be reserved for only the most dire of men. I truly don&#8217;t think Martin is a racist neo-nazi. I actually think he&#8217;s a pretty sincere guy &#8211; maybe a tad misguided but hey, he keeps the scholars on their toes, if anything. The way you treated him sort of reminds me of the way the left is treating Ron Paul in America at the moment. It may be a bit of a stretch as an analogy and correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but didn&#8217;t Hitler use a bit of Nietzsche&#8217;s philosophy to develop his own. Sure, Nietzsche is considered misguided by many, but I am quite certain he wasn&#8217;t advocating the extermination of the Jewish race. (Ricky Gervais does a great piece on this exact point in one of his stand-up comedy dvds that I own.) We are so intolerant and I have to say that Scott&#8217;s initial piece absolutely reeked of arrogance and judgement. In the end, it seems to me, that although you may not agree with the conclusions Martin has drawn from his research, you must admit that he has definitely done a shitload of research (albeit scattered and eclectic, in your opinion). And from assessing everything Martin wrote in this debate, I just couldn&#8217;t bring myself to the thought that this man is evil as you tried to portray him. I think that Martin is a thoughtful man. Eccentric?&#8230;probably&#8230;.Evil? Shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sione</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;AS RACIST AS WE WANT TO BE&quot;

I am a Tongan born and raised in America, but now live in Tonga since 1997. I can say that Polynesian culture is OBVIOUSLY proudly cruel and violent. We take pride in this fact, so why criticize a White man who points out this blatently obvious fact- Moaris being no exception- EXTREMELY VIOLENT. Here in Tonga we also take a huge amount of pride in the lightness of our skin. In Tonga, men and women alike walk around on sunny days with heads covered or with umbrellas for protection from the sun, as we are deathly afraid of being dark. Here in Tonga, we tease other Tongans if they are darker. I went to a grocery store one day after I started &quot;dating&quot; my wife, and the ladies at the checkout counter (at Molisi Tonga) asked me &quot;why did you pick a blaaaaaack one&quot;? After my wife got pregnant, one neighbor girl told me that my wife was going to give birth to an animal, because my wife is darker skinned- her grandfather being from Fiji.

Anyway- my point is that it is a dirty cheap shot to throw around the word &quot;Nazi&quot; when talking about Whites when they stand up for THEIR CULTURE. When we stand up for our culture- we are praised, when whites stand up for their culture- they are demonized. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP! When I read the title of this article before reading the article- my first thought was that this guy is pissed off about what Scott said and was using the easiest sure fire way to discredit him- cheaply use the word &quot;Nazi&quot;. Using the word &quot;Nazi&quot; is like calling someone a pedophile- it is a word weapon. Anyway- Communism, Socialism, and Marxism are the product of Jewish intellects- not so-called &quot;Aryan&quot; ones. I find my ownTongan people to be waaaaaaaay more openly racist than any White Americans I ever personally knew in my whole life. Back home in America many of my Tongan people refer to Indians as &quot;Curries&quot;, Mexicans as &quot;Wetbacks&quot;, Black people as &quot;Niggers&quot;, White people as &quot;Crackers&quot; or &quot;Rednecks&quot; etc. etc. Most of the Whites I ever knew back home were bleeding hearts who felt sorry for everything white people ever did to the Native Americans, Blacks, etc. etc. The SINGLE MOST racist people I have ever encountered in my life are native Hawaiians- they put Nazi&#039;s to shame in how vile and open their hatred for anything White is. The second most racist people I ever met were Moaris.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AS RACIST AS WE WANT TO BE&#8221;</p>
<p>I am a Tongan born and raised in America, but now live in Tonga since 1997. I can say that Polynesian culture is OBVIOUSLY proudly cruel and violent. We take pride in this fact, so why criticize a White man who points out this blatently obvious fact- Moaris being no exception- EXTREMELY VIOLENT. Here in Tonga we also take a huge amount of pride in the lightness of our skin. In Tonga, men and women alike walk around on sunny days with heads covered or with umbrellas for protection from the sun, as we are deathly afraid of being dark. Here in Tonga, we tease other Tongans if they are darker. I went to a grocery store one day after I started &#8220;dating&#8221; my wife, and the ladies at the checkout counter (at Molisi Tonga) asked me &#8220;why did you pick a blaaaaaack one&#8221;? After my wife got pregnant, one neighbor girl told me that my wife was going to give birth to an animal, because my wife is darker skinned- her grandfather being from Fiji.</p>
<p>Anyway- my point is that it is a dirty cheap shot to throw around the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; when talking about Whites when they stand up for THEIR CULTURE. When we stand up for our culture- we are praised, when whites stand up for their culture- they are demonized. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP! When I read the title of this article before reading the article- my first thought was that this guy is pissed off about what Scott said and was using the easiest sure fire way to discredit him- cheaply use the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221;. Using the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; is like calling someone a pedophile- it is a word weapon. Anyway- Communism, Socialism, and Marxism are the product of Jewish intellects- not so-called &#8220;Aryan&#8221; ones. I find my ownTongan people to be waaaaaaaay more openly racist than any White Americans I ever personally knew in my whole life. Back home in America many of my Tongan people refer to Indians as &#8220;Curries&#8221;, Mexicans as &#8220;Wetbacks&#8221;, Black people as &#8220;Niggers&#8221;, White people as &#8220;Crackers&#8221; or &#8220;Rednecks&#8221; etc. etc. Most of the Whites I ever knew back home were bleeding hearts who felt sorry for everything white people ever did to the Native Americans, Blacks, etc. etc. The SINGLE MOST racist people I have ever encountered in my life are native Hawaiians- they put Nazi&#8217;s to shame in how vile and open their hatred for anything White is. The second most racist people I ever met were Moaris.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kia ora tatou,

 I grew up on the Marae speaking Maori from a very young age.
Talking with the many elders that have pasted that have enriched my life in so many ways. The old stories about the Maori tribes sailing the great sea of Kiwa. 
The  7 great Maori waka that came to these shores over 1150 years ago and others will say, that the true tangata whenua were also Maori.
When the 7 waka came to these shores there were people living here.
The Maori had traveled these seas for 100s years, Te Rangi,Mu,Toi, Kupe,Kiwa, and Maui to name some of our greatest sailors of the sea.
These are some of the old local tribes,Patupaiarahe,Turehu,Panenehu,
The Moriori were also another Maori tribe.
The stories about white folk being tangata whenua of NZ is a joke, And I know it comes from a National geographic mag with a picture of a tattooed red haired skull found with a bunch of Maori skulls in a cave.
Now I was told this by a Maori elder about the real history.
He said that the Maori of old were not interested in gold or diamonds.
The Maori of old gathered the knowledge of the stars and sea&#039;s and where the food souse were best. They were the Viking s of the sea. 
Love n War was the way of life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora tatou,</p>
<p> I grew up on the Marae speaking Maori from a very young age.<br />
Talking with the many elders that have pasted that have enriched my life in so many ways. The old stories about the Maori tribes sailing the great sea of Kiwa.<br />
The  7 great Maori waka that came to these shores over 1150 years ago and others will say, that the true tangata whenua were also Maori.<br />
When the 7 waka came to these shores there were people living here.<br />
The Maori had traveled these seas for 100s years, Te Rangi,Mu,Toi, Kupe,Kiwa, and Maui to name some of our greatest sailors of the sea.<br />
These are some of the old local tribes,Patupaiarahe,Turehu,Panenehu,<br />
The Moriori were also another Maori tribe.<br />
The stories about white folk being tangata whenua of NZ is a joke, And I know it comes from a National geographic mag with a picture of a tattooed red haired skull found with a bunch of Maori skulls in a cave.<br />
Now I was told this by a Maori elder about the real history.<br />
He said that the Maori of old were not interested in gold or diamonds.<br />
The Maori of old gathered the knowledge of the stars and sea&#8217;s and where the food souse were best. They were the Viking s of the sea.<br />
Love n War was the way of life.</p>
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